Think for a moment out of all the teachers you’ve had in school, which one comes to mind the easiest? Which one is your favorite? Who’s teaching had the greatest impact on you? Mine was Ms. Bear. She was my 2nd grade teacher. She was your typical elementary school teacher who looked like she had just been transplanted out of Mr Roger’s neighborhood. I loved her. Why? Because she was a great teacher, but mostly because I really knew she cared about me. That made all the difference. She took time to invest.
It reminded me of a passage in Titus 2:11-14:
For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation for all people, training us to renounce ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright, and godly lives in the present age, waiting for our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ, who gave himself for us to redeem us from all lawlessness and to purify for himself a people for his own possession who are zealous for good works.
What does the beginning of that verse say? It says grace trains us to put off sin. It doesn’t say grace compels us to keep sinning. It doesn’t say God’s wrath trains us to put off sin. It says that grace trains us to stop sinning. Grace is our teacher. Now, the word train can mean a million different things right? Soldiers train. Kids train. Computer engineers train. But they are all different types of training. I’d hope my kid doesn’t get trained the same way a Navy Seal gets trained. So what kind of training does it mean in this verse?
The greek word used is παιδεύουσα (root word paidĕuō). It literally means to train up a child. Do you see how beautiful that is? The Apostle Paul is communicating to us in this verse that the same way a Father in tenderness trains a child is the same way grace trains us to stop sinning. It’s not the same as a drill sergeant. Grace will never fire you. Grace will never kick you out of class. Grace will never ask for your letter of resignation. The more you stray or mess up, the more grace gets deeply involved with you. Isn’t that true with a Father? At work when you mess up, you get fired. But when a child messes up, the parents usually expend more energy on that child. Discipline is a beautiful tool of Jesus to actually prove we are legitimate children of the king (See Hebrews 12:7-11).
So for those struggling with sin, know that your moral effort, or your white knuckle obedience won’t cut it. Come on, be honest, everyone has that one sin they can’t seem to stop doing. The guilt, the shame, and the embarrassment of thinking you are better than that. So you rationalize and think you just must have not had enough faith. This time you will definitely trust in Jesus more, try harder, and finally succeed. But here’s the truth-making more rules won’t cut it. Mustering up more effort won’t cut it. It doesn’t depend on your will or exertion, but on the mercy of God (Romans 9:16). Are those things good? Sure, but as a response to grace, not a merit for grace. Grace is what teaches us to say no to the world. It teaches us to say no to ungodliness. It teaches us to say no worldly passions. Have you ever let that sink in? Do you really believe that? Or do you think reading your bible more in the morning will do the trick? Do you believe that the unmerited favor of God towards you because of Jesus is what kills the power of sin in your life?
“For sin will have no dominion over you, since you are not under law but under grace.” || Romans 6:14 ESV
Sin only has dominion when you are under law. When you think you are an employee of God, rather than a child, sin has power. When you think you are under contract, rather than under covenant, sin has power. But, if you are under the waterfall of grace, you can begin to slowly but surely put away sin. It’s not a freeway its a dirt road–and sometimes you crawl. The beauty of it though is that along the journey grace is your teacher. You receive the full and perfect grade before you even start the class. The standing you have the minute you trust Jesus is the same standing you will have the minute you die–perfect, spotless, and blameless. If that truly penetrates your heart, when you fall you’ll run towards Him, not away from Him. Below Pastor Matt Chandler shares a story, that I’ve used plenty of times, that illustrates this point beautifully.
So is grace your teacher? Or are you still struggling under the unbearable weight of the law? Come to Jesus. He bears the burden. He takes the load. He does it for us. That is grace.
I beg to disagree. Maybe to some people and in some situations that is the case, but not all. We all know that apostle Paul loved God. But even he struggled with sin. For as long as we are human, we will sin at one point or the other. The important thing is to ensure that our heart is always focused on God. Always quick to repent when we sin. Since there is no condemnation for those in Christ
I see and understand where you’re coming from – but using Apostle Paul, David or any others besides JESUS CHRIST as an example is a very bad thing to do – because none of those others is CHRIST and none of those others can take anyone to THE FATHER – and only CHRIST can do that – and only LIVING IN and LIVING LIKE CHRIST can assure a resting place with THE FATHER ETERNALLY.
If you look deeper – and I mean much deeper. You can possibly see – it is hatred of GOD, CHRIST, THE HOLY GHOST, SCRIPTURE and / or TRUTH that leads to sinning – falling – and messing up.
I know to some – hatred is too strong of a word ….. but it is TRUTH. Specially when it comes to purposely sinning …. compared to sin by mistake. Sin my mistake is just that – a mistake – but those who LIVE IN CHRIST EMBRACE, LOVE and WANT CORRECTION. However – there are so many under the doctrine of devils – one can not correct someone who doesn’t want to be corrected.
Now …. pertaining to the article written ? I have to say – GRACE fully covers those who are LIVING IN CHRIST – but not those not LIVING IN CHRIST – as much as it does those who are LIVING IN CHRIST.
I have to say it like that – because I have ran across many un-saved people who claim to be under GRACE – but they commit purposeful sins – they rebuke, refute and reject SCRIPTURES and TRUTH of CORRECTION.
anyway … that moment – when you do something that hurts someone else ? or you do something – not carrying about who it hurts – because all you want is your own satisfaction ? That there is hatred of GOD – and selfishness to put self above and ahead of GOD in your life.
Dennis, I fully understand where you are coming from. And I acknowledge that we agree on a number of matters, of prime being the fact that grace is a cover for those is Jesus. I however, still think it is not such a bad idea to use examples of those apostles who went before us, why? They are human. And they are relatable. I know Jesus was tempted in every way we are- but he was still God. And ultimately, we should all thrive to get to the threshold he has placed for us. Why do I think the apostles make a great example? It is because (and this is true for me, I dunno about you), one of the ways the devil uses to keep us in sin is too make us feel condemned. Like since we have already sinned, we are done with and we might as well keep on sinning. Or that we have asked for forgiveness too many times, God must surely be tired of us. And I have been in such a dark place myself. Where I did not feel like I deserved to be called a Christian and I was such a shame to the kingdom for not having enough faith.. And here is where the words of the apostle speak to me… About having a thorn in the flesh that Jesus refuses to get rid of. So that we may jolly in the strength of Christ since we are weak. It keeps us praying. And trusting.
And that is why I said, the status of our hearts- deep inside is what God, thankfully looks at. Like He did the prostitute who kept coming back to ask for forgiveness.
1.) what prostitute kept coming back to ask for forgiveness ? I never read, researched or studies anything about that in my 15+ years of EDUCATION on this matter. 2.) Many people use David – Moses – and others – along with the apostles as scapegoats – to continue on in sin – CHRIST is the only way to THE FATHER … not the apostles – not David – and not Moses. Although they all have GREAT ACTS we all should follow – but we shouldn’t follow their bad acts or failures. 3.) The abundance of our hearts – come out through our mouths ….
Christopher Harker on February 20, 2016 at 4:27 am
Here is what i think. Tell me if I’m wrong. When i sin its not because of hate towards God or else i would not feel guilty about it or pray for strength to repent. Jesus is God and with out sin and without fault. So, He is our standard. His teachings give us insight to how we should be living and His parables give them meaning to the human mind.How do we achieve this standard? How do we learn not to sin from someone who never sinned? Do we learn to cook from someone who only eats? That is where the others come in and why God put them there. David, Moses, the apostles, they are all examples of humans trying to live for Christ. Without them i would be lost on what do when i make a mistake. I have faults and I was born into a world full of sin. So this makes the others important for that reason. They help us to learn what to do and what NOT to do. Paul was the most well known murderer of Christians of all time and became a leader in spreading Christianity around the world. To repent means to turn away and this example speaks volumes and gives me confidence that I can, which the devil would have me think otherwise. There is no excuse to continue on in sin living for Christ. We are not exempt like they believed during the crusades. Meaning they could sin as much as they wanted because Christ already paid the price. This is not living to the standard that Jesus gave us and pays no respect to his sacrifice. Praise be to God for the gift of His son who succeeded in our our failures and all out of love. Jesus is the success and offers to to share his reward. We should should be so humbled. Every person in the bible will have some purpose to someone in some way in efforts to leading the lost to the one and only. Whether its learning from their mistakes or finding more ways of being a faithful servant. I dont think anything in the Bible should be discredited because its not about Jesus. Yes, Jesus is the ONLY way, but i was not born without faults. Everyone in the Bible should be used as an example to help live a life that is pleasing to God. I dont hate God when I sin or keep sinning. I am weak and unwise and i am constantly a work in progress. I continue to work on repenting and educating myself in the Word because I love God and Jesus and the Holy spirit and want to do everything i can to please them. I’m not sure if anyone will even see this, but i feel a lot better having typed it down.
“”When i sin its not because of hate towards God or else i would not feel guilty about it or pray for strength to repent.””
Depending on the sin …. all sins are not the same depth or size …. some are greater than others – don’t believe the cliche or myth all sins are the same size ….. the only thing all sins have in common is they all lead away from GOD and to darkness and death.
To sin purposely is to hate GOD and even hate your own soul – and the people you include in those sins.
EXAMPLE – shacking up – living together – having sex. adultery or fornication. No one puts a gun to your head – but it’s so common – people do it – because GOD just doesn’t strike you down with a bolt of lightning.
When you do this – and you know better – you do it out of hatred for GOD and hatred of your own soul and the soul of the person you’re committing adultery with or fornication.
“”Jesus is God and with out sin and without fault. So, He is our standard. His teachings give us insight to how we should be living and His parables give them meaning to the human mind.””
TRUE
“”How do we achieve this standard? How do we learn not to sin from someone who never sinned?””
Easy – RESEARCH and STUDY GOD’S DEFINITION OF PERFECT. Check out this short video. It’s easier than man tells you it is.
“” Do we learn to cook from someone who only eats?””
Someone who only eats ? Can get to know what they are eating. The contents – The seasonings and so on …
“” That is where the others come in and why God put them there. David, Moses, the apostles, they are all examples of humans trying to live for Christ.””
Personally ? I use them to learn from their mistakes – not to fall over the same things they fell over – CHRIST is THE PRIME EXAMPLE …
many false doctrines, false prophets and false teachers use them to condone, promote and support failing, falling and sinning.
“” Without them i would be lost on what do when i make a mistake. I have faults and I was born into a world full of sin. So this makes the others important for that reason. They help us to learn what to do and what NOT to do.””
Understandable – but personally ? again – I learn from the mistakes of others – and try not to fall for what they fell for.
“”Paul was the most well known murderer of Christians of all time and became a leader in spreading Christianity around the world.””
After he met JESUS and became a follower – he was no longer a killer of CHRISTIANS …..
“” To repent means to turn away and this example speaks volumes and gives me confidence that I can, which the devil would have me think otherwise.””
TRUE
“” There is no excuse to continue on in sin living for Christ. We are not exempt like they believed during the crusades.””
crusades who killed because people wouldn’t conform to their form of a false christianity – were not of GOD but of satan – sent by a satanic pope.
“” Meaning they could sin as much as they wanted because Christ already paid the price.””
Lots of false doctrines, false prophets and false teacher lead people to believe this – because they want the numbers of the masses following them – so they lead people to believe – it’s ok to sin – GOD STILL LOVES you –
and other false doctrines – you’re no longer under THE LAW because you’re under GRACE ….
When in reality ? Only those who LIVE IN CHRIST are under GRACE and no longer under THE LAW.
those who live on the outside of CHRIST ? Are not fully covered by GRACE and are under THE LAW.
“”This is not living to the standard that Jesus gave us and pays no respect to his sacrifice.””
TRUE !!!
“”Praise be to God for the gift of His son who succeeded in our our failures and all out of love. Jesus is the success and offers to to share his reward. We should should be so humbled.””
TRUE
“”Every person in the bible will have some purpose to someone in some way in efforts to leading the lost to the one and only. Whether its learning from their mistakes or finding more ways of being a faithful servant””
TRUE
“”I dont think anything in the Bible should be discredited”””
TRUE
“”because its not about Jesus. Yes, Jesus is the ONLY way, but i was not born without faults.””
But we can become without faults – if we TRULY FOLLOW and LOVE CHRIST and HIS FATHER and THE COMFORTS of THE HOLY GHOST.
“” Everyone in the Bible should be used as an example to help live a life that is pleasing to God.””
TRUE
“” I dont hate God when I sin or keep sinning.””
I don’t agree – if you know it’s a sin – and you keep doing it – it sure isn’t LOVE – and I don’t believe there to be any grey areas between LOVE and hate – RIGHT and wrong.
“” I am weak and unwise and i am constantly a work in progress. I continue to work on repenting and educating myself in the Word because I love God and Jesus and the Holy spirit and want to do everything i can to please them.””
Understandable ….
“”I’m not sure if anyone will even see this, but i feel a lot better having typed it down.””
well ? I certainly saw it …. and hope we continue this conversation. Please check out that video I shared with you and others.
Chris on May 3, 2016 at 11:23 pm
Lol dude chill with all the Hate God mumbo jumbo when you sin.. if hate is the reason behind the sin then you yourself hate God.. because you sin just like everyone else! You can’t pick and choose what you want out of the word.. 1 John 1:8 says: If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. But I’m willing to bet you yourself won’t admit to hating God when you mess up correct? Man there’s no reason to hate on other people for using biblical people for inspiration in time of need!!! If the bible says all scripture is inspired by God then obviously they were placed there BY GOD to help! Of course Jesus is the only way, we know this, it’s how we are saved! No one person can go to the Father except through Christ! This was not the point of the young lady above. And as far as your argument goes about some sin being more serious than others then explain the verse in James 2:10 that says “For whoever keeps the whole law but fails in one point has become accountable for all of it.” Does that sound cliche or mythical? No it sounds biblical and it sounds like to me that no matter what sin you commit God is gonna hold you to the same degree as everyone else. Like you said… “there are no gray areas.” This isnt to say that discipline for your sins on earth isnt greater or the consequences for your actions on earth isn’t greater, but friend because we serve a JUST God your sin is no different than anyone else’s in His sight. And that’s not for you to decide.. you are a finite being with a carnal mind… serving an infinite God with a supernatural eternal mind. On judgement day when you stand face to face with God He’s not gonna look at you and say Dennis explain why you commited adultery when you lusted ater that girl inside (Matthew 5:28)… and then a minute later say now you don’t have to give as good of reason for that piece of bubble gum you stole because that’s not as serious and that theft is different than other theft. NOOOOOOO! NOT BIBLICAL. God is Just. Sin is sin and it’s ALL detestable to God. Stop tripping because people are using other people in the bible for an example. Those people are A example NOT THE example. And to look at the life of one of those is wrong in no way. Just because my hope of salvation doesn’t come from Paul doesn’t mean I can’t use his testimony for encouragement….. which brings me to another verse! Revelation 12:11 And they have conquered him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, for they loved not their lives even unto death. “Conquered him”… translating, devil.. translating even further, sin. Testimony is a powerful tool! The stories and lives of the people in the bible their walking testimony. There testimony isn’t what delivers us from sin.. that’s Jesus.. no there testimony encourages and motivates! This is all a heart issue and you Dennis can’t judge other people’s hearts.. it’s not just the action. Countless times in the bible it talks about heart and God seeing to the heart. Example? The lady who gave all she had because she gave out of her poverty Mark 12. It wasn’t a “big” gift in a worldy sense but Jesus saw straight to her heart. I do agree that a person can’t take advantage of grace willingly.. but how do you know if that is what they are doing? You aren’t God and the people who take advantage of Grace aren’t fooling Him either! Trust me.. the holy spirit has convicted them so don’t judge so heavily. Jesus said it best in two different occasions.. “let you who is without sin cast the first stone” and “why do you see the speck that is in your brothers eyes and not notice the log that is in yours?” There are no levels of sin here and God is looking straight at your heart.. don’t be quick to think people hate God because they are struggling in an area of life. Yes I know some people try and willingly take advantage of grace.. that’s old news.. Paul already hit on that in Romans.. but you don’t know if that’s the case or not so don’t go overboard by making people think they hate God now because they messed up. Remember Dennis you will be judged in the manner in which you judge. Matthew 7:2.
no liar – I don’t sin like everyone else…. your hatred is keeping you blinded because you believe satan more than you believe GOD.
1.) Those who actually LIVE IN CHRIST and LOVE GOD are always fleeing from sin – because CORRECTED and EDIFIED by THE HOLY GHOST and others who are a part of THE BODY OF CHRIST …..
2.) Those who are worldly – are the one’s you’re talking about – they sin like everyone else – and until they start turning from sin – they will be doomed for hell.
SCRIPTURES PROVE – one must be SPOTLESS and WRINKLE FREE to enter into HEAVEN – with your hatred and thinking – no one will ever be in HEAVEN or make it to HEAVEN.
you’re so filled with hate.
“”But I’m willing to bet you yourself won’t admit to hating God when you mess up correct?””
Looks like you lost – because any time I purposely disobey THE LORD, sin or wickedly attack others – like you’re doing me – it’s out of hatred of THE LORD and more LOVE for my flesh, myself and what I want – and not what THE LORD WANTS …
“” If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.””
I never in my life said – I have no sin – but there is a such thing as PRACTICING not sinning – and the more you practice – the better you get at not sinning ….
If you weren’t so hateful and filled with hatred against me – you could FEEL, KNOW and SEE – that CHRIST can cleanse anyone of their past sins – and once that happens – they are then SINLESS –
but wait – with your hatefulness and worldly understandings – CHRIST is not able or capable of cleansing a person’s sins – through HIS BLOOD.
The more you LOVE THE LORD – the more you rebuke, refute and reject sin – and stop selling people on a lie – about when you sin – it doesn’t mean you hate GOD.
“”Man there’s no reason to hate on other people for using biblical people for inspiration in time of need!!!””
I don’t hate anyone for using biblical people for inspiration – I AM against people using biblical people to do wrong and justify it – but your hatred ? say I hate them.
“”And as far as your argument goes about some sin being more serious than others””
Not an argument – hater – just THE TRUTH – the argument comes in – when people like you – bring in deceptions, lies and tricks against THE TRUTH.
Maybe … JUST MAYBE if you weren’t so hung up on excuses, guesses and opinions – you could GROW UP IN CHRIST ….
but I AM sure – you live on a mentality that everyone has a right to their own opinions – and maybe you’re possibly one of those lunatics that believe no opinion is wrong …..
“” then explain the verse in James 2:10 that says “For whoever keeps the whole law but fails in one point has become accountable for all of it.” “”
James 2:10 ► For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
1.) What you seem to not comprehend, know or understand is …. Once you LIVE IN CHRIST – you are a part of THE BODY OF CHRIST and no longer under THE LAW – but you automatically keep THE LAW in your living – THE TWO GREATEST COMMANDMENTS are the key to mastering this level of LOVE.
You will LOVE THE LORD so much – and LOVE others so much – you won’t be breaking any of THE LAW – because you’ll have way too much LOVE to do so – unless it is by accident or mistake – you wouldn’t do it on purpose – because the hatred of THE LORD and others are not in you …
but you’re not there yet.
“”Does that sound cliche or mythical?””
Not at all – but you should stick to The King James version – and not any of those – defiled versions …. King James version has enough problems of it’s own – with a few words lost in translation … but THE MOST ACCURATE. So glad I use THE ORIGINAL GREEK and HEBREW VERSIONS as well as The King James version …
“”No it sounds biblical””
Actually ? you’re attempting to mix up sin with THE LAW – and it seems you don’t know the difference between THE COMMANDMENTS and THE LAW.
you should stop hating so much – because you were raised, taught and trained wrong in LOVING GOD, CHRIST and THE HOLY GHOST and THE HOLY SCRIPTURES – which will cause you to use man’s cliche’s and understanding – and not THE LORDS.
“” and it sounds like to me that no matter what sin you commit God is gonna hold you to the same degree as everyone else.””
well .. you need to clean out your ears … accidental sin – is not the same as purposeful sin purposeful sin – is not the same as accidental sin
lusting after a woman in your mind – is not the same as actually raping your neighbour’s wife – nor is it equal to cutting someone’s head off because you’re mad at them for something they believe, did or said.
There are degrees of sin – and that false doctrine you’re under – that tells you – all sins are the same size – has you jacked up and tore up from the floor up in your thinking.
ALL sin leads to death – YES – but all sins are not equal in destruction of the others, the soul and the spirit.
“”your sin is no different than anyone else’s in His sight. “”
dude – you are really lost – and you’re all mixed up in justifying sin ….. you’re probably under that …… it’s ok to sin – GOD still LOVES you doctrine – filled with lies from hell – because one sections makes the whole defiled and wrong.
“”And that’s not for you to decide..””
I didn’t make that decision – only FOLLOWING, LIVING and TEACHING SCRIPTURES.
“” you are a finite being with a carnal mind… “”
DING!!!!!!! DING!!!!!!! DING!!!!!!! DING !!!!!!! DING !!!!!!! I’ve been proving this whole time – you have a carnal and worldly comprehension, heart, mind, and spirit – and here you are calling me carnal minded …… and that is PROOF of how much you hate me.
“”serving an infinite God with a supernatural eternal mind.””
wow – you’re preaching to yourself – but you don’t even get it you’re wrong – but you hateful because I AM RIGHT and you are wrong so you’re defensive and now have a lying tongue – and last time I checked ?
a lying tongue is an abomination unto GOD
“” On judgement day when you stand face to face with God He’s not gonna look at you and say Dennis explain why you commited adultery when you lusted ater that girl inside (Matthew 5:28)…””
I don’t lust after women, men or children I’ve been DELIVERED from lusting in my heart, mind and soul ….
Since you seem to act like it’s norm or lust and sin … maybe .. JUST MAYBE…. you will awaken – and understand … There is DELIVERANCE and HEALING through CHRIST REPENTANCE means to turn away from a sin – and never return
but you’re so hung up on returning back to the very vomit you make up excuses, guesses and opinions to justify why you keep returning to that same sin – and I and SCRIPTURES say that is hatred of THE LORD and not LOVE OF THE LORD.
“” and then a minute later say now you don’t have to give as good of reason for that piece of bubble gum you stole because that’s not as serious and that theft is different than other theft.””
stealing a piece of gum – is not the same as stealing a person’s life savings – destroying many lives and whole generations to come – but …. you’re always going to come up with excuses, guesses and opinions until you get DELIVERED and start REPENTING.
“”Stop tripping because people are using other people in the bible for an example.””
I AM not tripping because people use biblical people for inspiration but I know this – only THROUGH CHRIST will you get to THE FATHER. not David, not Moses nor anyone else – but CHRIST.
“” Those people are A example NOT THE example. And to look at the life of one of those is wrong in no way.””
I never said it was wrong – it’s is good to be INSPIRED by the great things they did – and to learn from their mistakes – to not make the same mistakes – but to use them as justification to do the same wrongs they did ??? Is demonic, evil, satanic and wicked.
“” There testimony isn’t what delivers us from sin”” “”there testimony encourages and motivates!””
MY GOD – I never said there was anything wrong with a person’s testimony but PLEASE – learn the difference between their, there and they’re …
“”This is all a heart issue and you Dennis can’t judge other people’s hearts..””
I don’t condemn or judge anyone’s heart – but THE HOLY GHOST tells me a whole lot about the hearts of the people I interact with – especially when SHARING, SHEDDING, SHOWING, SOWING, SPEAKING, SPREADING and TEACHING THE TRUTH OF THE LORD ……
Many people like you – aren’t there yet – and get mad at THE TRUTH – and continue to argue against THE TRUTH …
I can tell a whole lot about your heart – by the things that come from you.
Luke 6:45 ► A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh.
Matthew 15:18 ► But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man.
“” it’s not just the action. “”
The actions of a person – EXPLAINS who that person serves. GOD or satan.
get over it – stop trying to make evil people good and good people evil to fit your wickedness.
“”Countless times in the bible it talks about heart and God seeing to the heart.””
when a person who is FILLED WITH THE HOLY GHOST – they too can see a person’s heart – but in your mentality – it seems THE HOLY GHOST is not ONE WITH THE FATHER – and doesn’t GUIDE, LEAD or TALK to those whom HE FILLS.
“” Example? The lady who gave all she had because she gave out of her poverty Mark 12. It wasn’t a “big” gift in a worldy sense but Jesus saw straight to her heart””
and those who LIVE IN CHRIST can also see – those people’s hearts and whom they choose to SERVE …. and it can be done this age and day to ….
but it seems like you’re on that – only GOD knows my heart mentality – while denying THE POWER OF THE HOLY GHOST to GUIDE, LEAD and SPEAK to HIS CHOSEN.
“”. I do agree that a person can’t take advantage of grace willingly.. but how do you know if that is what they are doing?””
Learn about THE SPIRIT OF DISCERNMENT and THE HOLY GHOST. Once you’ve learn that ? Then MASTERED that ? then get back with me.
“” You aren’t God and the people who take advantage of Grace aren’t fooling Him either!””
Neither do they fool GOD’S CHOSE, GOD’S SAINTS, GOD’S SERVANTS and GOD’S SOLDIERS – but … you seem to not like TRUTH.
“” Trust me.. the holy spirit has convicted them so don’t judge so heavily.””
If THE HOLY GHOST convicted them – why are they still doing wickedness ??? UH OH – more flaws in the false doctrine you’re peddling …
“”Jesus said it best in two different occasions.. “let you who is without sin cast the first stone” and “why do you see the speck that is in your brothers eyes and not notice the log that is in yours?” “”
First off ? I never threw a stone at anyone …. but I understand the false doctrine you’re under … CORRECTION and EDIFICATION is considered throwing stones.
and as far as that beam ? You have a beam in your eye – attempting to make a speck be in my eye.
“”There are no levels of sin here and God is looking straight at your heart..””
The same reason – THE LORD doesn’t FORGIVE a couple who is shacking up – living in sin – having sex on a regular basis – but after sex – they get on their knees and big for forgiveness – knowing – they will be having sex again
and this is getting more pathetic … replying to your nonsense …. and cliches.
“” don’t be quick to think people hate God because they are struggling in an area of life.””
“” Yes I know some people try and willingly take advantage of grace.. that’s old news.. Paul already hit on that in Romans.. but you don’t know if that’s the case or not so don’t go overboard by making people think they hate God now because they messed up.””
If they messed up on purpose ? It’s out of hatred. If they messed up by accident ? It’s not as much out of hatred – but probably because they haven’t GROWN enough and LEARN enough.
“” Remember Dennis you will be judged in the manner in which you judge. Matthew 7:2.””
I didn’t judge anyone liar – but I did, do and will continue to RIGHTEOUSLY JUDGE the actions of people….
and I will continue to speak up about what actions are of THE LORD and what actions are of satan….
I’ll walk in my CALLING – no matter what demonic, evil, satanic and wickedness you conjure up to attempt to sway me.
Chris on May 4, 2016 at 6:11 am
I think I made it about half way through your spill before I just couldn’t read the ignorance anymore. Every single time you start to word vomit you never back what you say with scripture.. you used 2 scriptures above in a row to try and explain the heart but it didn’t do anything to hurt what I’ve said.. all it did was further back the heart issue. You do NOT know the intent of my heart. “SCRIPTURES PROVE – one must be SPOTLESS and WRINKLE FREE to enter into HEAVEN – with your hatred and thinking – no one will ever be in HEAVEN or make it to HEAVEN.” Do you not know that the meaning behind what you just said was taken care of on the cross?! You are under the influence of the law and you are falling into the same wicked trap that most Jews fall into. What if Dennis you commit a sin while driving no matter how big and then you immediatley die.. are you going to hell? As if Jesus dying on the cross isnt big enough? The scriptures warn that Jesus the cornerstone will be your stumbling block Romans 9:30-33. You are saved by FAITH not by WORKS lest any man should boast! Ephesians 2:8-9 Your salvation is a gift and I believe if you truly love God you won’t take advantage of His Son on purpose. Does that mean you won’t mess up? Hardly. Ask yourself. I love that you keep calling what I say and my actions satanic evil and demonic lol.. buy yet here I am openly declaring Jesus as Lord over my life. Trust me Dennis.. your condemnation doesn’t bother me because Romans 8:1 says there is no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus. Lol oh and hey the way I write “there, their, or they’re” is so totally irrelevant. But I’ll try and work on that for you so you don’t have a way to try and cut me down in a worldy sense.
Look clown – I could have posted SCRIPTURES at every section. I run a 30+ Channel Television Network – several channels on SCRIPTURES ONLY and THE TRUE MEANING – backed up by SCRIPTURES …..
You … in all of your TRUE vomit of deceptions lies and tricks made into cliches didn’t back up everything you said in SCRIPTURE – but you want to hold me to a different standard – because of your hatred of THE TRUTH ….
Now – you watch that video – and you’ll see the curse you are under. If you want me to back up something I did or said with SCRIPTURE ? Ask for it – or Ask me to.
Because you used SCRIPTURE – out of context – with wrong wordings and from a defiled translation …..
the intent of your heart is to be right – and to rebuke, refute and reject TRUTH – only and probably because it’s coming from me – because you want to falsely accuse me of 1.) hating people who use others in THE HOLY BIBLE for inspiration 2.) hating testimonies of those in THE HOLY BIBLE … but that’s just your hatred – and I’ve FORGIVEN you for that – and will continue to FORGIVE you – for you know not what you do or say.
“SCRIPTURES PROVE – one must be SPOTLESS and WRINKLE FREE to enter into HEAVEN – with your hatred and thinking – no one will ever be in HEAVEN or make it to HEAVEN.”
“”Do you not know that the meaning behind what you just said was taken care of on the cross?!””
No you liar – it was not taken care of at THE CROSS – only THE PATH was taken care of at THE CROSS you liar.
ALL are not AUTOMATICALLY SAVED and going to HEAVEN because CHRIST died on A CROSS you liar.
One must BELIEVE – CONFESS and REPENT – then LIVE IN CHRIST and REMAIN LIVING IN CHRIST to get to HEAVEN ….
Those who don’t believe – will NEVER be spotless and wrinkle free – you liar.
“” You are under the influence of the law and you are falling into the same wicked trap that most Jews fall into.””
No you liar. I AM not under THE LAW – I LIVE IN CHRIST – and I don’t break THE LAW – because I have too much LOVE FOR GOD and PEOPLE to hate them – as you do -as you make up lies about me.
see… you don’t want to admit – making up lies about me is out of hatred and not LOVE
“” What if Dennis you commit a sin while driving no matter how big and then you immediatley die..””
what sin am I going to commit ?? Like – using foul language because my life is about to end ? Well .. I don’t use foul language –
am I going to lust after a woman while in a car crash ? am I going to shoot someone before the cars crash into each other ? you are only coming up with excuses, guesses and opinions….. and none of them are of GOD, CHRIST or THE HOLY GHOST …
“” are you going to hell?””
No.
“” As if Jesus dying on the cross isnt big enough?””
CHRIST RESURRECTED – you keep talking about CHRIST Dying but not HIS RESURRECTION – which COMPLETES HIS MISSION at that stage – now ?
THOSE WHO BELIEVE and LIVE IN CHRIST are capable of doing GREATER WORKS that what CHRIST HIMSELF DID – while on earth – THROUGH CHRIST – because HE has gone up to be with HIS FATHER…
Now those who BELIEVE and LIVE IN CHRIST have WAY MORE POWER through CHRIST …..
“” The scriptures warn that Jesus the cornerstone will be your stumbling block Romans 9:30-33.::
you are really lost dude ……
Romans 9:30-33 30 What shall we say then? That the Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith. 31 But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness. 32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone; 33 As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
you are using these SCRIPTURES WAY OUT of context ….. wow ..
“” You are saved by FAITH not by WORKS lest any man should boast! Ephesians 2:8-9″”
you’re really lost – FAITH without WORKS is dead …. WORKS provides VITAL INFORMATION of who a person SERVES – GOD or satan – just like the fruits of their labour – provides VITAL INFORMATION of whom they serve – GOD or satan.
“”Your salvation is a gift and I believe if you truly love God you won’t take advantage of His Son on purpose.””
Well…. there’s a whole lot of people out there purposefully sinning – on purpose – and they RAISE, TEACH and TRAIN their CHILDREN, YOUTH and YOUNG ADULTS to live the same way – like you – making up excuses, guesses and opinions to commit sin – and say you LOVE GOD while committing the sin
“”I am openly declaring Jesus as Lord over my life.””
Matthew 7:21-23 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
“” Trust me Dennis..””
If you were of GOD, CHRIST or THE HOLY GHOST ??? you would NEVER EVER ask or tell me to trust you …. for SCRIPTURES TEACH – TRUST NO MAN but TRUST GOD ….. you’re BUSTED.
“” your condemnation doesn’t bother me because Romans 8:1 says there is no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus.””
you’re not in CHRIST JESUS dude – just because you believe you are – doesn’t make you in CHRIST – your actions – purposeful lies PROVE IT.
All because you are under a false doctrine – and can’t handle it when someone brings in THE TRUE DOCTRINE.
“” Lol oh and hey the way I write “there, their, or they’re” is so totally irrelevant. “”
No it’s not – because when you say their testimonies – it means someone’s testimonies …
when you say there testimonies – it’s as if some testimonies are laying over there or somewhere else – which I can’t see …..
So…. reading mess like that bothers me – especially when I have FILM to EDIT – TEACHINGS OF CHRIST to UPLOAD – and so much more – which you could probably NEVER comprehend or understand – because you’re not in the BUSINESS OF THE FATHER IN HEAVEN … you’re in the business of arguing against TRUTH and fighting against TRUTH to hang on to your deceptions, lies and tricks – to continue on in your cliche’s and SCRIPTURES out of CONTEXT …
“”But I’ll try and work on that for you so you don’t have a way to try and cut me down in a worldy sense.””
I didn’t attempt to or try to cut you down – I believe I said to learn the difference …..
Just as I AM going to say now – STUDY THE WORD to show yourself APPROVED by GOD – because right now ? You’re not APPROVED BY GOD when it comes to the way you’re using SCRIPTURES – and the defiled bible you’re using.
@ALL – THANK you for the kind words and the new connections – as you see – some just don’t get it – they are trapped into what they were taught – and won’t let go of it to save their own lives.
We are to warn the wicked of their wicked ways to save their lives – so their blood won’t be on our hands – but as you all have seen – CORRECTION and EDIFICATION is seen as
in his words … “”cut me down in a worldy sense””
BE BLESSED ALL and THANKS TO ALL – and 1Latham TV THANKS you as well – because this is going to make for GREAT MATERIAL for SCRIPTURE Channel and teachings on living HOLY and SANCTIFIED ….
where you don’t go around giving and making room for sin … which leads to death.
BE BLESSED and HALLELUJAH !!!!!!!
Adam on June 11, 2016 at 8:18 pm
Hey Dennis I know it’s been over a month already but I just read some of your comments today and felt that I should comment about what God’s grace to man is like, first of all it is not something earned, deserved or merited it is a gift just like salvation and righteousness are. To me it seems like you’re teaching some that you must do something in order to be forgiven but if we must do something to earn forgiveness then salvation is not a gift it would be something we earned by OUR righteousness and OUR obedience But the bible clearly says that “no one is righteous, no not one” and “our righteousness is like filthy rags” and it also says to “take every thought captive to the obedience OF CHRIST” There are so many churches out there that like to beat up people’s conscious and condemn by brothers and sisters they say you must turn from your sin THEN God will forgive you but what they don’t understand is that it’s God’s grace that leads us to repentance and true victory over sin I’ll give you some examples from the bible and you already know these stories but take a closer look When the adulterous woman was brought to Jesus the pharisees told him that under law the woman should be stoned to death then Jesus said okay to him who is without sin cast the first stone then one by one they all left so Jesus walked over to the girl and asked where are they that condemn you the girl looked around and said they’re all gone so Jesus said neither do I condemn you NOW go and sin no more. As you can see the only one that was able to stone the girl (since he was the only one without sin) forgave her first then said to not sin anymore
How about the prodigal son that dishonored his father and shamed his name when he spent all his inheritance on women liquor and drugs then was so broke and hungry that he even desired what the pigs ate until he finally came to his senses and wanted to go back to his father and on his way back the Father saw him from afar and ran to him and kissed him and had his servants put a nice robe on him and gold jewelry and killed the fattend calf to celebrate him coming back Did the Father when he first saw his son yell really loud REPENT!!! Or did he go and RUN to him? How about when Peter first met Jesus after fishing all day long Jesus came to him and said let down your nets peter being a professional fisherman in his mind knew that at this time of day they’re wouldn’t be any fish to catch so he let down only one of his nets all of a sudden his boat started rocking from all the fish tugging on the net so he yelled to his partners to help him bring the fish on board as he was doing that the net began to break (I wonder why) he caught so many fish that his boat was beginning to sink then he looked at Jesus and said depart from me for I am a sinful man What came first Jesus’ grace or his holiness? At the very moment you declare that Jesus is your Lord and Savior you become righteous through faith permanently! Hopefully you kind of get my point that telling people they hate God isn’t leading them closer to Jesus in fact I know of some people that are led away from church because of similar teachings I’ll leave you with a few verses to think about
But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Romans 5:8 niv
.17 For if, by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man, how much more will those who receive God’s abundant provision of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in lifethrough the one man, Jesus Christ! 18 Consequently, just as one trespass resulted in condemnation for all people, so also one righteous act resulted in justification and life for all people. 19 For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous. 20 The law was brought in so that the trespass might increase. But where sin increased, grace increased all the more, 21 so that, just as sin reigned in death, so also grace might reign through righteousness to bring eternal lifethrough Jesus Christ our Lord. Romans 5:17-21
Adam ? Out of respect ? I will attempt to address a few of your points, subjects and topics to the best of my knowledge and time …. and allow me to remind you – respect is a characteristic of LOVE – while disrespect is a characteristic of hatred.
“”God’s grace to man is like, first of all it is not something earned, deserved or merited it is a gift just like salvation and righteousness are.””
Well … I have to say you’re very wrong about this type of teaching and understanding ….. please – allow me to EXPLAIN in FULL DETAIL.
“”first of all it is not something earned, deserved or merited””
YES – IT IS …. something EARNED – something DESERVE and something MERITED to those who CONFESS that CHRIST IS KING OF KINGS – risen from the dead – CONFESS that CHRIST is their LORD AND SAVIOR – and LIVE WITHIN CHRIST and not within the worlds or worldliness.
See….. ALL who LIVE IN CHRIST are SAVED … ALL who do not LIVE IN CHRIST are damned and headed to hell. THERE are things that are DESERVED, EARNED, and MERITED when one choose CHRIST over satan.
I AM very familiar with the type of teaching and understanding you have displayed here – in just these few lines ……
It’s not right many people teach we’re all under GRACE …. but that’s not THE WHOLE TRUTH. Those who are SAVED are under GOD’S FULL GRACE and FULLY COVERED. The people they REACH OUT TO and TOUCH – get a portion of that GRACE …….
those who hate GOD, CHRIST or THE HOLY GHOST – for what ever reason – are not under THE FULL GRACE OF THE LORD GOD ALMIGHTY….
“” To me it seems like you’re teaching some that you must do something in order to be forgiven “”
You must do something in order to be forgiven … 1.) before you can be forgive by GOD THE FATHER – you must FIRST FORGIVE ALL who have sinned against you and wronged you.
Mark 11:26 ► But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses.
See … THE HOLY SCRIPTURES don’t lie. so yes …. I TEACH – there are things you have to do – in order to be FORGIVEN. There’s MORE if you’re interested.
See… I RESEARCH, STUDY and TEACH this EACH and EVERY DAY and EACH and EVERY NIGHT. This is what I do – and have been doing it for the past 16+ YEARS … I didn’t just pick this up yesterday or the day before and a few months or years ago.
Now for one more part – before I PREPARE for tomorrow …. and if I get a chance and remember ? I will come back and respond to the rest – but what you wrote was REALLY LONG and I don’t know if I will have time to ADDRESS ALL within the next day or so….
“”but if we must do something to earn forgiveness””
which I EXPLAINED to you in my other comment ….. you have to do something to earn FORGIVENESS….. THE HOLY SCRIPTURES do not lie and they are CLEAR, PLAIN, PRECISE and SIMPLE ….. and it seems you’re mixing up scriptures to create a false doctrines – but if this is how and what you were taught – I hope the things I do and say get and / or put you on THE RIGHT PATH.
Mark 11:26 ► But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses.
There is something you have to do to be forgiven ….. I STAND on that … however – you have proven you don’t stand on that – I hope you change your mind – like I said before – there is more – I would really like to EXPLAIN it ALL to you – if you would like – it might be better to connect with me on FaceBook or Twitter though …. or call me.
“”then salvation is not a gift it would be something we earned””
JESUS DIED and AROSE AGAIN – To save us ALL from ALL of our sins …. but we have to ACCEPT THE SACRIFICE HE MADE for us … those who don’t ACCEPT HIS SACRIFICE – will not be SAVED but will end up in hell.
“” by OUR righteousness and OUR obedience “”
THE MORE CHRIST is in you ? The more RIGHTEOUS ACTIONS you do and the more RIGHTEOUS things you say. BEING OBEDIENT TO GOD THE FATHER IS THE KEY ……
“”But the bible clearly says that “no one is righteous,””
No persons but GOD, CHRIST and THE HOLY GHOST are RIGHTEOUS – on our own ? we are not RIGHTEOUS – but when THE HOLY GHOST is RUNNING OVER IN US – we do and say RIGHTEOUS THINGS – because it is THE HOLY GHOST that is DOING and SAYING through our VESSELS….
“” no not one” and “our righteousness is like filthy rags”””
Right … our own righteousness is like filthy rags – but not THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD, CHRIST and THE HOLY GHOST when THEY’RE VESSELS are being USED and those VESSELS are doing GOD’S WILL.
“” and it also says to “take every thought captive to the obedience OF CHRIST” “”
I will advise you to understand this scripture – it only works if you’re A SERVANT OF THE LORD – it works for no one else. However – many act as if it’s for everyone – but it’s not – just THE SERVANTS OF THE LORD …
Isaiah 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the Lord, and their righteousness is of me, saith the Lord.
I hope you can understand these lines …..
“”and their righteousness is of me, saith the Lord.”” “”This is the heritage of the servants of the Lord”” “”and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn””
See … GOD’S SERVANTS are CALLED to condemn every tongue that rises against them … but man twists it – and say – you don’t have to – but over look it – and let them talk ….. and so on …. that is a false doctrine
“”At the very moment you declare that Jesus is your Lord and Savior you become righteous through faith permanently!””
this statement is so NOT TRUE and so UN TRUE ….. it is a lie ….. once saved always saved is a false doctrine …
Many have feel from GRACE and are in hell or headed to hell. Once you LIVE IN CHRIST and continue to LIVE IN CHRIST unto your death – then you are SAVED – not until then …
see … you’re teaching people that all they have to do is say a few words in front of some church people and their SOUL IS PROTECTED FOREVER … and that is a false doctrine – created by false prophets and false teachers to gain audiences to misguide and mislead people away from CHRIST and towards satan …… I hope you understand …
“”Hopefully you kind of get my point that telling people they hate God isn’t leading them closer to Jesus””
If it’s THE TRUTH – ???? Then it’s THE TRUTH. See … I discuss these things all the time – DAILY and NIGHTLY – ALL THE TIME … I LEAD, SHOW and TEACH people how to LOVE GOD and what it is to hate GOD …..
They high majority of the people on this earth hate GOD ….. Thus the reason many will go to hell and few will go to HEAVEN. I won’t change what THE HOLY GHOST told me to say …..
It seems you would rather me beat around the bush – sugar coat it and water it down to get people to like me – but I AM not here to please man – I AM only here to please GOD, CHRIST and THE HOLY GHOST ….
“” in fact I know of some people that are led away from church because of similar teachings””
If they are lead away because of THE TRUTH – then they seek not THE TRUTH – and GOD, CHRIST nor THE HOLY GHOST will tolerate anyone who hates THE TRUTH to be allowed into THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN ….
Well …. several ONLINE RADIO and TELEVISION NETWORKS have picked up SCRIPTURE CHANNEL of 1Latham TV – and airing EPISODES all day – every day … even my Twitter Account is blowing up with MENTIONS of the plays – and the people ENLIGHTENED, DELIVERED and HEALED from false doctrines, false prophets and false teachings ….
so .. what ever else other hateful and wicked statements you can or want to throw this way ? I say … go for it – knock yourself out.
GOD gave ALL FREEWILL …… but I have WARNED you several times – about making up lies about me – and now I AM going to WARN you one last time – about speaking against GOD’S WILL being done.
jefwassom on July 4, 2016 at 10:20 am
must get awfully cold upon your moral high ground. you spew all this scripture and you refute what you have no understanding of… you probably hate gay people as well, because you just don’t understand it… get off your high horse buddy.
“”must get awfully cold upon your moral high ground.””
Moral high ground ??? LOL … no … I AM not on any moral high ground – but I know the difference between RIGHTEOUSNESS and unrighteousness ….
“” you spew all this scripture and you refute what you have no understanding of… “”
Well … I see you’re filled with a lot of hatred ….. too much to explain what you’re talking about …..
“”you probably hate gay people as well,””
I don’t hate anyone – and I have a whole lot of gay connections and friends I MINISTER TO….. I may hate their sins – but I don’t hate them ….. I do the same with many atheists too – muslims too …. I LOVE ALL PEOPLE – but you being a false witness is an abomination unto GOD.
“” because you just don’t understand it… get off your high horse buddy.””
oh … I understand very well …. ALL sin leads to death …. those who want to LIVE ??? ETERNALLY WITH THE LORD ??? Will do everything in their power to seek out every sin they can REPENT FROM ….. now …
I know you’re a very miserable person and all – and I know misery loves company – I will not tolerate any conversations or discussions with the likes of you – if you continue to be a false witness and falsely accuse me of things that I have not done.
you should really watch that video I shared – it’s EASY to be perfect in GOD’S EYES and HEART ….. and get up off the hate and the need to be and remain defiled.
WHY DO YOU KEEP SINNING, FALLING, & MESSING UP?
Because of the lack of LOVE FOR GOD. That’s why.
I beg to disagree. Maybe to some people and in some situations that is the case, but not all. We all know that apostle Paul loved God. But even he struggled with sin. For as long as we are human, we will sin at one point or the other. The important thing is to ensure that our heart is always focused on God. Always quick to repent when we sin. Since there is no condemnation for those in Christ
I see and understand where you’re coming from – but using Apostle Paul, David or any others besides JESUS CHRIST as an example is a very bad thing to do – because none of those others is CHRIST and none of those others can take anyone to THE FATHER – and only CHRIST can do that – and only LIVING IN and LIVING LIKE CHRIST can assure a resting place with THE FATHER ETERNALLY.
If you look deeper – and I mean much deeper.
You can possibly see – it is hatred of GOD, CHRIST, THE HOLY GHOST, SCRIPTURE and / or TRUTH that leads to sinning – falling – and messing up.
I know to some – hatred is too strong of a word ….. but it is TRUTH.
Specially when it comes to purposely sinning ….
compared to sin by mistake.
Sin my mistake is just that – a mistake – but those who LIVE IN CHRIST EMBRACE, LOVE and WANT CORRECTION. However – there are so many under the doctrine of devils – one can not correct someone who doesn’t want to be corrected.
Now …. pertaining to the article written ?
I have to say – GRACE fully covers those who are LIVING IN CHRIST – but not those not LIVING IN CHRIST – as much as it does those who are LIVING IN CHRIST.
I have to say it like that – because I have ran across many un-saved people who claim to be under GRACE – but they commit purposeful sins – they rebuke, refute and reject SCRIPTURES and TRUTH of CORRECTION.
anyway … that moment – when you do something that hurts someone else ?
or you do something – not carrying about who it hurts – because all you want is your own satisfaction ? That there is hatred of GOD – and selfishness to put self above and ahead of GOD in your life.
Dennis,
I fully understand where you are coming from. And I acknowledge that we agree on a number of matters, of prime being the fact that grace is a cover for those is Jesus. I however, still think it is not such a bad idea to use examples of those apostles who went before us, why? They are human. And they are relatable. I know Jesus was tempted in every way we are- but he was still God. And ultimately, we should all thrive to get to the threshold he has placed for us.
Why do I think the apostles make a great example? It is because (and this is true for me, I dunno about you), one of the ways the devil uses to keep us in sin is too make us feel condemned. Like since we have already sinned, we are done with and we might as well keep on sinning. Or that we have asked for forgiveness too many times, God must surely be tired of us. And I have been in such a dark place myself. Where I did not feel like I deserved to be called a Christian and I was such a shame to the kingdom for not having enough faith.. And here is where the words of the apostle speak to me… About having a thorn in the flesh that Jesus refuses to get rid of. So that we may jolly in the strength of Christ since we are weak. It keeps us praying. And trusting.
And that is why I said, the status of our hearts- deep inside is what God, thankfully looks at. Like He did the prostitute who kept coming back to ask for forgiveness.
1.) what prostitute kept coming back to ask for forgiveness ? I never read, researched or studies anything about that in my 15+ years of EDUCATION on this matter.
2.) Many people use David – Moses – and others – along with the apostles as scapegoats – to continue on in sin – CHRIST is the only way to THE FATHER … not the apostles – not David – and not Moses. Although they all have GREAT ACTS we all should follow – but we shouldn’t follow their bad acts or failures.
3.) The abundance of our hearts – come out through our mouths ….
Here is what i think. Tell me if I’m wrong. When i sin its not because of hate towards God or else i would not feel guilty about it or pray for strength to repent. Jesus is God and with out sin and without fault. So, He is our standard. His teachings give us insight to how we should be living and His parables give them meaning to the human mind.How do we achieve this standard? How do we learn not to sin from someone who never sinned? Do we learn to cook from someone who only eats? That is where the others come in and why God put them there. David, Moses, the apostles, they are all examples of humans trying to live for Christ. Without them i would be lost on what do when i make a mistake. I have faults and I was born into a world full of sin. So this makes the others important for that reason. They help us to learn what to do and what NOT to do. Paul was the most well known murderer of Christians of all time and became a leader in spreading Christianity around the world. To repent means to turn away and this example speaks volumes and gives me confidence that I can, which the devil would have me think otherwise. There is no excuse to continue on in sin living for Christ. We are not exempt like they believed during the crusades. Meaning they could sin as much as they wanted because Christ already paid the price. This is not living to the standard that Jesus gave us and pays no respect to his sacrifice. Praise be to God for the gift of His son who succeeded in our our failures and all out of love. Jesus is the success and offers to to share his reward. We should should be so humbled.
Every person in the bible will have some purpose to someone in some way in efforts to leading the lost to the one and only. Whether its learning from their mistakes or finding more ways of being a faithful servant. I dont think anything in the Bible should be discredited because its not about Jesus. Yes, Jesus is the ONLY way, but i was not born without faults. Everyone in the Bible should be used as an example to help live a life that is pleasing to God. I dont hate God when I sin or keep sinning. I am weak and unwise and i am constantly a work in progress. I continue to work on repenting and educating myself in the Word because I love God and Jesus and the Holy spirit and want to do everything i can to please them.
I’m not sure if anyone will even see this, but i feel a lot better having typed it down.
“”Here is what i think. Tell me if I’m wrong.””
Sure thing ….
“”When i sin its not because of hate towards God or else i would not feel guilty about it or pray for strength to repent.””
Depending on the sin …. all sins are not the same depth or size ….
some are greater than others – don’t believe the cliche or myth all sins are the same size ….. the only thing all sins have in common is they all lead away from GOD and to darkness and death.
To sin purposely is to hate GOD and even hate your own soul – and the people you include in those sins.
EXAMPLE – shacking up – living together – having sex.
adultery or fornication.
No one puts a gun to your head – but it’s so common – people do it – because GOD just doesn’t strike you down with a bolt of lightning.
When you do this – and you know better – you do it out of hatred for GOD and hatred of your own soul and the soul of the person you’re committing adultery with or fornication.
“”Jesus is God and with out sin and without fault. So, He is our standard. His teachings give us insight to how we should be living and His parables give them meaning to the human mind.””
TRUE
“”How do we achieve this standard? How do we learn not to sin from someone who never sinned?””
Easy – RESEARCH and STUDY GOD’S DEFINITION OF PERFECT.
Check out this short video. It’s easier than man tells you it is.
https://youtu.be/HHmLwVs_oJE?list=PLx_m1Xun8I3evz3wVnGzSwbYkswW1ulYf
“” Do we learn to cook from someone who only eats?””
Someone who only eats ? Can get to know what they are eating.
The contents – The seasonings and so on …
“” That is where the others come in and why God put them there. David, Moses, the apostles, they are all examples of humans trying to live for Christ.””
Personally ? I use them to learn from their mistakes – not to fall over the same things they fell over – CHRIST is THE PRIME EXAMPLE …
many false doctrines, false prophets and false teachers use them to condone, promote and support failing, falling and sinning.
“” Without them i would be lost on what do when i make a mistake. I have faults and I was born into a world full of sin. So this makes the others important for that reason. They help us to learn what to do and what NOT to do.””
Understandable – but personally ?
again – I learn from the mistakes of others – and try not to fall for what they fell for.
“”Paul was the most well known murderer of Christians of all time and became a leader in spreading Christianity around the world.””
After he met JESUS and became a follower – he was no longer a killer of CHRISTIANS …..
“” To repent means to turn away and this example speaks volumes and gives me confidence that I can, which the devil would have me think otherwise.””
TRUE
“” There is no excuse to continue on in sin living for Christ. We are not exempt like they believed during the crusades.””
crusades who killed because people wouldn’t conform to their form of a false christianity – were not of GOD but of satan – sent by a satanic pope.
“” Meaning they could sin as much as they wanted because Christ already paid the price.””
Lots of false doctrines, false prophets and false teacher lead people to believe this – because they want the numbers of the masses following them – so they lead people to believe – it’s ok to sin – GOD STILL LOVES you –
and other false doctrines – you’re no longer under THE LAW because you’re under GRACE ….
When in reality ?
Only those who LIVE IN CHRIST are under GRACE and no longer under THE LAW.
those who live on the outside of CHRIST ?
Are not fully covered by GRACE and are under THE LAW.
“”This is not living to the standard that Jesus gave us and pays no respect to his sacrifice.””
TRUE !!!
“”Praise be to God for the gift of His son who succeeded in our our failures and all out of love. Jesus is the success and offers to to share his reward. We should should be so humbled.””
TRUE
“”Every person in the bible will have some purpose to someone in some way in efforts to leading the lost to the one and only. Whether its learning from their mistakes or finding more ways of being a faithful servant””
TRUE
“”I dont think anything in the Bible should be discredited”””
TRUE
“”because its not about Jesus. Yes, Jesus is the ONLY way, but i was not born without faults.””
But we can become without faults – if we TRULY FOLLOW and LOVE CHRIST and HIS FATHER and THE COMFORTS of THE HOLY GHOST.
“” Everyone in the Bible should be used as an example to help live a life that is pleasing to God.””
TRUE
“” I dont hate God when I sin or keep sinning.””
I don’t agree – if you know it’s a sin – and you keep doing it – it sure isn’t LOVE – and I don’t believe there to be any grey areas between LOVE and hate – RIGHT and wrong.
“” I am weak and unwise and i am constantly a work in progress. I continue to work on repenting and educating myself in the Word because I love God and Jesus and the Holy spirit and want to do everything i can to please them.””
Understandable ….
“”I’m not sure if anyone will even see this, but i feel a lot better having typed it down.””
well ? I certainly saw it …. and hope we continue this conversation.
Please check out that video I shared with you and others.
Lol dude chill with all the Hate God mumbo jumbo when you sin.. if hate is the reason behind the sin then you yourself hate God.. because you sin just like everyone else! You can’t pick and choose what you want out of the word.. 1 John 1:8 says: If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. But I’m willing to bet you yourself won’t admit to hating God when you mess up correct? Man there’s no reason to hate on other people for using biblical people for inspiration in time of need!!! If the bible says all scripture is inspired by God then obviously they were placed there BY GOD to help! Of course Jesus is the only way, we know this, it’s how we are saved! No one person can go to the Father except through Christ! This was not the point of the young lady above. And as far as your argument goes about some sin being more serious than others then explain the verse in James 2:10 that says “For whoever keeps the whole law but fails in one point has become accountable for all of it.” Does that sound cliche or mythical? No it sounds biblical and it sounds like to me that no matter what sin you commit God is gonna hold you to the same degree as everyone else. Like you said… “there are no gray areas.” This isnt to say that discipline for your sins on earth isnt greater or the consequences for your actions on earth isn’t greater, but friend because we serve a JUST God your sin is no different than anyone else’s in His sight. And that’s not for you to decide.. you are a finite being with a carnal mind… serving an infinite God with a supernatural eternal mind. On judgement day when you stand face to face with God He’s not gonna look at you and say Dennis explain why you commited adultery when you lusted ater that girl inside (Matthew 5:28)… and then a minute later say now you don’t have to give as good of reason for that piece of bubble gum you stole because that’s not as serious and that theft is different than other theft. NOOOOOOO! NOT BIBLICAL. God is Just. Sin is sin and it’s ALL detestable to God. Stop tripping because people are using other people in the bible for an example. Those people are A example NOT THE example. And to look at the life of one of those is wrong in no way. Just because my hope of salvation doesn’t come from Paul doesn’t mean I can’t use his testimony for encouragement….. which brings me to another verse! Revelation 12:11 And they have conquered him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, for they loved not their lives even unto death. “Conquered him”… translating, devil.. translating even further, sin. Testimony is a powerful tool! The stories and lives of the people in the bible their walking testimony. There testimony isn’t what delivers us from sin.. that’s Jesus.. no there testimony encourages and motivates! This is all a heart issue and you Dennis can’t judge other people’s hearts.. it’s not just the action. Countless times in the bible it talks about heart and God seeing to the heart. Example? The lady who gave all she had because she gave out of her poverty Mark 12. It wasn’t a “big” gift in a worldy sense but Jesus saw straight to her heart. I do agree that a person can’t take advantage of grace willingly.. but how do you know if that is what they are doing? You aren’t God and the people who take advantage of Grace aren’t fooling Him either! Trust me.. the holy spirit has convicted them so don’t judge so heavily. Jesus said it best in two different occasions.. “let you who is without sin cast the first stone” and “why do you see the speck that is in your brothers eyes and not notice the log that is in yours?” There are no levels of sin here and God is looking straight at your heart.. don’t be quick to think people hate God because they are struggling in an area of life. Yes I know some people try and willingly take advantage of grace.. that’s old news.. Paul already hit on that in Romans.. but you don’t know if that’s the case or not so don’t go overboard by making people think they hate God now because they messed up. Remember Dennis you will be judged in the manner in which you judge. Matthew 7:2.
no liar – I don’t sin like everyone else…. your hatred is keeping you blinded because you believe satan more than you believe GOD.
1.) Those who actually LIVE IN CHRIST and LOVE GOD are always fleeing from sin – because CORRECTED and EDIFIED by THE HOLY GHOST and others who are a part of THE BODY OF CHRIST …..
2.) Those who are worldly – are the one’s you’re talking about – they sin like everyone else – and until they start turning from sin – they will be doomed for hell.
SCRIPTURES PROVE – one must be SPOTLESS and WRINKLE FREE to enter into HEAVEN – with your hatred and thinking – no one will ever be in HEAVEN or make it to HEAVEN.
you’re so filled with hate.
“”But I’m willing to bet you yourself won’t admit to hating God when you mess up correct?””
Looks like you lost – because any time I purposely disobey THE LORD, sin or wickedly attack others – like you’re doing me – it’s out of hatred of THE LORD and more LOVE for my flesh, myself and what I want – and not what THE LORD WANTS …
“” If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.””
I never in my life said – I have no sin – but there is a such thing as PRACTICING not sinning – and the more you practice – the better you get at not sinning ….
If you weren’t so hateful and filled with hatred against me – you could FEEL, KNOW and SEE – that CHRIST can cleanse anyone of their past sins – and once that happens – they are then SINLESS –
but wait – with your hatefulness and worldly understandings – CHRIST is not able or capable of cleansing a person’s sins – through HIS BLOOD.
The more you LOVE THE LORD – the more you rebuke, refute and reject sin – and stop selling people on a lie – about when you sin – it doesn’t mean you hate GOD.
“”Man there’s no reason to hate on other people for using biblical people for inspiration in time of need!!!””
I don’t hate anyone for using biblical people for inspiration – I AM against people using biblical people to do wrong and justify it – but your hatred ? say I hate them.
“”And as far as your argument goes about some sin being more serious than others””
Not an argument – hater – just THE TRUTH – the argument comes in – when people like you – bring in deceptions, lies and tricks against THE TRUTH.
Maybe … JUST MAYBE if you weren’t so hung up on excuses, guesses and opinions – you could GROW UP IN CHRIST ….
but I AM sure – you live on a mentality that everyone has a right to their own opinions – and maybe you’re possibly one of those lunatics that believe no opinion is wrong …..
“” then explain the verse in James 2:10 that says “For whoever keeps the whole law but fails in one point has become accountable for all of it.” “”
James 2:10 ►
For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
1.) What you seem to not comprehend, know or understand is ….
Once you LIVE IN CHRIST – you are a part of THE BODY OF CHRIST and no longer under THE LAW – but you automatically keep THE LAW in your living – THE TWO GREATEST COMMANDMENTS are the key to mastering this level of LOVE.
You will LOVE THE LORD so much – and LOVE others so much – you won’t be breaking any of THE LAW – because you’ll have way too much LOVE to do so – unless it is by accident or mistake – you wouldn’t do it on purpose – because the hatred of THE LORD and others are not in you …
but you’re not there yet.
“”Does that sound cliche or mythical?””
Not at all – but you should stick to The King James version – and not any of those – defiled versions …. King James version has enough problems of it’s own – with a few words lost in translation … but THE MOST ACCURATE. So glad I use THE ORIGINAL GREEK and HEBREW VERSIONS as well as The King James version …
“”No it sounds biblical””
Actually ? you’re attempting to mix up sin with THE LAW – and it seems you don’t know the difference between THE COMMANDMENTS and THE LAW.
you should stop hating so much – because you were raised, taught and trained wrong in LOVING GOD, CHRIST and THE HOLY GHOST and THE HOLY SCRIPTURES – which will cause you to use man’s cliche’s and understanding – and not THE LORDS.
“” and it sounds like to me that no matter what sin you commit God is gonna hold you to the same degree as everyone else.””
well .. you need to clean out your ears …
accidental sin – is not the same as purposeful sin
purposeful sin – is not the same as accidental sin
lusting after a woman in your mind – is not the same as actually raping your neighbour’s wife – nor is it equal to cutting someone’s head off because you’re mad at them for something they believe, did or said.
There are degrees of sin – and that false doctrine you’re under – that tells you – all sins are the same size – has you jacked up and tore up from the floor up in your thinking.
ALL sin leads to death – YES – but all sins are not equal in destruction of the others, the soul and the spirit.
“”your sin is no different than anyone else’s in His sight. “”
dude – you are really lost – and you’re all mixed up in justifying sin …..
you’re probably under that …… it’s ok to sin – GOD still LOVES you doctrine – filled with lies from hell – because one sections makes the whole defiled and wrong.
“”And that’s not for you to decide..””
I didn’t make that decision – only FOLLOWING, LIVING and TEACHING SCRIPTURES.
“” you are a finite being with a carnal mind… “”
DING!!!!!!! DING!!!!!!! DING!!!!!!! DING !!!!!!! DING !!!!!!!
I’ve been proving this whole time – you have a carnal and worldly comprehension, heart, mind, and spirit – and here you are calling me carnal minded …… and that is PROOF of how much you hate me.
“”serving an infinite God with a supernatural eternal mind.””
wow – you’re preaching to yourself – but you don’t even get it
you’re wrong – but you hateful because I AM RIGHT and you are wrong
so you’re defensive and now have a lying tongue – and last time I checked ?
a lying tongue is an abomination unto GOD
“” On judgement day when you stand face to face with God He’s not gonna look at you and say Dennis explain why you commited adultery when you lusted ater that girl inside (Matthew 5:28)…””
I don’t lust after women, men or children
I’ve been DELIVERED from lusting in my heart, mind and soul ….
Since you seem to act like it’s norm or lust and sin …
maybe .. JUST MAYBE…. you will awaken – and understand …
There is DELIVERANCE and HEALING through CHRIST
REPENTANCE means to turn away from a sin – and never return
but you’re so hung up on returning back to the very vomit
you make up excuses, guesses and opinions to justify why you keep returning to that same sin – and I and SCRIPTURES say that is hatred of THE LORD and not LOVE OF THE LORD.
“” and then a minute later say now you don’t have to give as good of reason for that piece of bubble gum you stole because that’s not as serious and that theft is different than other theft.””
stealing a piece of gum – is not the same as stealing a person’s life savings – destroying many lives and whole generations to come – but …. you’re always going to come up with excuses, guesses and opinions until you get DELIVERED and start REPENTING.
“”Stop tripping because people are using other people in the bible for an example.””
I AM not tripping because people use biblical people for inspiration
but I know this – only THROUGH CHRIST will you get to THE FATHER.
not David, not Moses nor anyone else – but CHRIST.
“” Those people are A example NOT THE example. And to look at the life of one of those is wrong in no way.””
I never said it was wrong – it’s is good to be INSPIRED by the great things they did – and to learn from their mistakes – to not make the same mistakes – but to use them as justification to do the same wrongs they did ??? Is demonic, evil, satanic and wicked.
“” There testimony isn’t what delivers us from sin””
“”there testimony encourages and motivates!””
MY GOD – I never said there was anything wrong with a person’s testimony
but PLEASE – learn the difference between their, there and they’re …
“”This is all a heart issue and you Dennis can’t judge other people’s hearts..””
I don’t condemn or judge anyone’s heart – but THE HOLY GHOST tells me a whole lot about the hearts of the people I interact with – especially when SHARING, SHEDDING, SHOWING, SOWING, SPEAKING, SPREADING and TEACHING THE TRUTH OF THE LORD ……
Many people like you – aren’t there yet – and get mad at THE TRUTH – and continue to argue against THE TRUTH …
I can tell a whole lot about your heart – by the things that come from you.
Luke 6:45 ►
A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh.
Matthew 15:18 ►
But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man.
“” it’s not just the action. “”
The actions of a person – EXPLAINS who that person serves.
GOD or satan.
get over it – stop trying to make evil people good and good people evil to fit your wickedness.
“”Countless times in the bible it talks about heart and God seeing to the heart.””
when a person who is FILLED WITH THE HOLY GHOST – they too can see a person’s heart – but in your mentality – it seems THE HOLY GHOST is not ONE WITH THE FATHER – and doesn’t GUIDE, LEAD or TALK to those whom HE FILLS.
“” Example? The lady who gave all she had because she gave out of her poverty Mark 12. It wasn’t a “big” gift in a worldy sense but Jesus saw straight to her heart””
and those who LIVE IN CHRIST can also see – those people’s hearts and whom they choose to SERVE …. and it can be done this age and day to ….
but it seems like you’re on that – only GOD knows my heart mentality – while denying THE POWER OF THE HOLY GHOST to GUIDE, LEAD and SPEAK to HIS CHOSEN.
“”. I do agree that a person can’t take advantage of grace willingly.. but how do you know if that is what they are doing?””
Learn about THE SPIRIT OF DISCERNMENT and THE HOLY GHOST.
Once you’ve learn that ? Then MASTERED that ?
then get back with me.
“” You aren’t God and the people who take advantage of Grace aren’t fooling Him either!””
Neither do they fool GOD’S CHOSE, GOD’S SAINTS, GOD’S SERVANTS and GOD’S SOLDIERS – but … you seem to not like TRUTH.
“” Trust me.. the holy spirit has convicted them so don’t judge so heavily.””
If THE HOLY GHOST convicted them – why are they still doing wickedness ??? UH OH – more flaws in the false doctrine you’re peddling …
“”Jesus said it best in two different occasions.. “let you who is without sin cast the first stone” and “why do you see the speck that is in your brothers eyes and not notice the log that is in yours?” “”
First off ? I never threw a stone at anyone ….
but I understand the false doctrine you’re under …
CORRECTION and EDIFICATION is considered throwing stones.
and as far as that beam ? You have a beam in your eye – attempting to make a speck be in my eye.
“”There are no levels of sin here and God is looking straight at your heart..””
The same reason – THE LORD doesn’t FORGIVE a couple who is shacking up – living in sin – having sex on a regular basis – but after sex – they get on their knees and big for forgiveness – knowing – they will be having sex again
and this is getting more pathetic … replying to your nonsense …. and cliches.
“” don’t be quick to think people hate God because they are struggling in an area of life.””
“” Yes I know some people try and willingly take advantage of grace.. that’s old news.. Paul already hit on that in Romans.. but you don’t know if that’s the case or not so don’t go overboard by making people think they hate God now because they messed up.””
If they messed up on purpose ? It’s out of hatred.
If they messed up by accident ? It’s not as much out of hatred – but probably because they haven’t GROWN enough and LEARN enough.
“” Remember Dennis you will be judged in the manner in which you judge. Matthew 7:2.””
I didn’t judge anyone liar – but I did, do and will continue to RIGHTEOUSLY JUDGE the actions of people….
and I will continue to speak up about what actions are of THE LORD and what actions are of satan….
I’ll walk in my CALLING – no matter what demonic, evil, satanic and wickedness you conjure up to attempt to sway me.
I think I made it about half way through your spill before I just couldn’t read the ignorance anymore. Every single time you start to word vomit you never back what you say with scripture.. you used 2 scriptures above in a row to try and explain the heart but it didn’t do anything to hurt what I’ve said.. all it did was further back the heart issue. You do NOT know the intent of my heart.
“SCRIPTURES PROVE – one must be SPOTLESS and WRINKLE FREE to enter into HEAVEN – with your hatred and thinking – no one will ever be in HEAVEN or make it to HEAVEN.”
Do you not know that the meaning behind what you just said was taken care of on the cross?! You are under the influence of the law and you are falling into the same wicked trap that most Jews fall into. What if Dennis you commit a sin while driving no matter how big and then you immediatley die.. are you going to hell? As if Jesus dying on the cross isnt big enough? The scriptures warn that Jesus the cornerstone will be your stumbling block Romans 9:30-33. You are saved by FAITH not by WORKS lest any man should boast! Ephesians 2:8-9
Your salvation is a gift and I believe if you truly love God you won’t take advantage of His Son on purpose. Does that mean you won’t mess up? Hardly. Ask yourself. I love that you keep calling what I say and my actions satanic evil and demonic lol.. buy yet here I am openly declaring Jesus as Lord over my life. Trust me Dennis.. your condemnation doesn’t bother me because Romans 8:1 says there is no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus. Lol oh and hey the way I write “there, their, or they’re” is so totally irrelevant. But I’ll try and work on that for you so you don’t have a way to try and cut me down in a worldy sense.
Look clown – I could have posted SCRIPTURES at every section. I run a 30+ Channel Television Network – several channels on SCRIPTURES ONLY and THE TRUE MEANING – backed up by SCRIPTURES …..
You … in all of your TRUE vomit of deceptions lies and tricks made into cliches didn’t back up everything you said in SCRIPTURE – but you want to hold me to a different standard – because of your hatred of THE TRUTH ….
well … here’s what GOD does to those who hate TRUTH – as you do.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiwKPs8cmkU
Now – you watch that video – and you’ll see the curse you are under.
If you want me to back up something I did or said with SCRIPTURE ?
Ask for it – or Ask me to.
Because you used SCRIPTURE – out of context – with wrong wordings and from a defiled translation …..
“”You do NOT know the intent of my heart.””
the intent of your heart is to be right – and to rebuke, refute and reject TRUTH – only and probably because it’s coming from me – because you want to falsely accuse me of
1.) hating people who use others in THE HOLY BIBLE for inspiration
2.) hating testimonies of those in THE HOLY BIBLE …
but that’s just your hatred – and I’ve FORGIVEN you for that – and will continue to FORGIVE you – for you know not what you do or say.
“SCRIPTURES PROVE – one must be SPOTLESS and WRINKLE FREE to enter into HEAVEN – with your hatred and thinking – no one will ever be in HEAVEN or make it to HEAVEN.”
“”Do you not know that the meaning behind what you just said was taken care of on the cross?!””
No you liar – it was not taken care of at THE CROSS – only THE PATH was taken care of at THE CROSS you liar.
ALL are not AUTOMATICALLY SAVED and going to HEAVEN because CHRIST died on A CROSS you liar.
One must BELIEVE – CONFESS and REPENT – then LIVE IN CHRIST and REMAIN LIVING IN CHRIST to get to HEAVEN ….
Those who don’t believe – will NEVER be spotless and wrinkle free – you liar.
“” You are under the influence of the law and you are falling into the same wicked trap that most Jews fall into.””
No you liar. I AM not under THE LAW – I LIVE IN CHRIST – and I don’t break THE LAW – because I have too much LOVE FOR GOD and PEOPLE to hate them – as you do -as you make up lies about me.
see… you don’t want to admit – making up lies about me is out of hatred and not LOVE
“” What if Dennis you commit a sin while driving no matter how big and then you immediatley die..””
what sin am I going to commit ?? Like – using foul language because my life is about to end ? Well .. I don’t use foul language –
am I going to lust after a woman while in a car crash ?
am I going to shoot someone before the cars crash into each other ?
you are only coming up with excuses, guesses and opinions…..
and none of them are of GOD, CHRIST or THE HOLY GHOST …
“” are you going to hell?””
No.
“” As if Jesus dying on the cross isnt big enough?””
CHRIST RESURRECTED – you keep talking about CHRIST Dying but not HIS RESURRECTION – which COMPLETES HIS MISSION at that stage – now ?
THOSE WHO BELIEVE and LIVE IN CHRIST are capable of doing GREATER WORKS that what CHRIST HIMSELF DID – while on earth – THROUGH CHRIST – because HE has gone up to be with HIS FATHER…
Now those who BELIEVE and LIVE IN CHRIST have WAY MORE POWER through CHRIST …..
“” The scriptures warn that Jesus the cornerstone will be your stumbling block Romans 9:30-33.::
you are really lost dude ……
Romans 9:30-33
30 What shall we say then? That the Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith.
31 But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness.
32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;
33 As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
you are using these SCRIPTURES WAY OUT of context ….. wow ..
“” You are saved by FAITH not by WORKS lest any man should boast! Ephesians 2:8-9″”
you’re really lost – FAITH without WORKS is dead ….
WORKS provides VITAL INFORMATION of who a person SERVES – GOD or satan – just like the fruits of their labour – provides VITAL INFORMATION of whom they serve – GOD or satan.
“”Your salvation is a gift and I believe if you truly love God you won’t take advantage of His Son on purpose.””
Well…. there’s a whole lot of people out there purposefully sinning – on purpose – and they RAISE, TEACH and TRAIN their CHILDREN, YOUTH and YOUNG ADULTS to live the same way – like you – making up excuses, guesses and opinions to commit sin – and say you LOVE GOD while committing the sin
“”I am openly declaring Jesus as Lord over my life.””
Matthew 7:21-23
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
“” Trust me Dennis..””
If you were of GOD, CHRIST or THE HOLY GHOST ???
you would NEVER EVER ask or tell me to trust you ….
for SCRIPTURES TEACH – TRUST NO MAN but TRUST GOD …..
you’re BUSTED.
“” your condemnation doesn’t bother me because Romans 8:1 says there is no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus.””
you’re not in CHRIST JESUS dude – just because you believe you are – doesn’t make you in CHRIST – your actions – purposeful lies PROVE IT.
All because you are under a false doctrine – and can’t handle it when someone brings in THE TRUE DOCTRINE.
“” Lol oh and hey the way I write “there, their, or they’re” is so totally irrelevant. “”
No it’s not – because when you say their testimonies – it means someone’s testimonies …
when you say there testimonies – it’s as if some testimonies are laying over there or somewhere else – which I can’t see …..
So…. reading mess like that bothers me – especially when I have FILM to EDIT – TEACHINGS OF CHRIST to UPLOAD – and so much more – which you could probably NEVER comprehend or understand – because you’re not in the BUSINESS OF THE FATHER IN HEAVEN … you’re in the business of arguing against TRUTH and fighting against TRUTH to hang on to your deceptions, lies and tricks – to continue on in your cliche’s and SCRIPTURES out of CONTEXT …
“”But I’ll try and work on that for you so you don’t have a way to try and cut me down in a worldy sense.””
I didn’t attempt to or try to cut you down – I believe I said to learn the difference …..
Just as I AM going to say now – STUDY THE WORD to show yourself APPROVED by GOD – because right now ? You’re not APPROVED BY GOD when it comes to the way you’re using SCRIPTURES – and the defiled bible you’re using.
@ALL – THANK you for the kind words and the new connections – as you see – some just don’t get it – they are trapped into what they were taught – and won’t let go of it to save their own lives.
We are to warn the wicked of their wicked ways to save their lives – so their blood won’t be on our hands – but as you all have seen – CORRECTION and EDIFICATION is seen as
in his words … “”cut me down in a worldy sense””
BE BLESSED ALL and THANKS TO ALL – and 1Latham TV THANKS you as well – because this is going to make for GREAT MATERIAL for SCRIPTURE Channel and teachings on living HOLY and SANCTIFIED ….
where you don’t go around giving and making room for sin …
which leads to death.
BE BLESSED and HALLELUJAH !!!!!!!
Hey Dennis I know it’s been over a month already but I just read some of your comments today and felt that I should comment about what God’s grace to man is like, first of all it is not something earned, deserved or merited it is a gift just like salvation and righteousness are. To me it seems like you’re teaching some that you must do something in order to be forgiven but if we must do something to earn forgiveness then salvation is not a gift it would be something we earned by OUR righteousness and OUR obedience But the bible clearly says that “no one is righteous, no not one” and “our righteousness is like filthy rags” and it also says to “take every thought captive to the obedience OF CHRIST”
There are so many churches out there that like to beat up people’s conscious and condemn by brothers and sisters they say you must turn from your sin THEN God will forgive you but what they don’t understand is that it’s God’s grace that leads us to repentance and true victory over sin I’ll give you some examples from the bible and you already know these stories but take a closer look
When the adulterous woman was brought to Jesus the pharisees told him that under law the woman should be stoned to death then Jesus said okay to him who is without sin cast the first stone then one by one they all left so Jesus walked over to the girl and asked where are they that condemn you the girl looked around and said they’re all gone so Jesus said neither do I condemn you NOW go and sin no more.
As you can see the only one that was able to stone the girl (since he was the only one without sin) forgave her first then said to not sin anymore
How about the prodigal son that dishonored his father and shamed his name when he spent all his inheritance on women liquor and drugs then was so broke and hungry that he even desired what the pigs ate until he finally came to his senses and wanted to go back to his father and on his way back the Father saw him from afar and ran to him and kissed him and had his servants put a nice robe on him and gold jewelry and killed the fattend calf to celebrate him coming back
Did the Father when he first saw his son yell really loud REPENT!!! Or did he go and RUN to him?
How about when Peter first met Jesus after fishing all day long Jesus came to him and said let down your nets peter being a professional fisherman in his mind knew that at this time of day they’re wouldn’t be any fish to catch so he let down only one of his nets all of a sudden his boat started rocking from all the fish tugging on the net so he yelled to his partners to help him bring the fish on board as he was doing that the net began to break (I wonder why) he caught so many fish that his boat was beginning to sink then he looked at Jesus and said depart from me for I am a sinful man
What came first Jesus’ grace or his holiness?
At the very moment you declare that Jesus is your Lord and Savior you become righteous through faith permanently!
Hopefully you kind of get my point that telling people they hate God isn’t leading them closer to Jesus in fact I know of some people that are led away from church because of similar teachings I’ll leave you with a few verses to think about
But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Romans 5:8 niv
.17 For if, by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man, how much more will those who receive God’s abundant provision of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in lifethrough the one man, Jesus Christ!
18 Consequently, just as one trespass resulted in condemnation for all people, so also one righteous act resulted in justification and life for all people. 19 For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous.
20 The law was brought in so that the trespass might increase. But where sin increased, grace increased all the more, 21 so that, just as sin reigned in death, so also grace might reign through righteousness to bring eternal lifethrough Jesus Christ our Lord. Romans 5:17-21
Adam ? Out of respect ? I will attempt to address a few of your points, subjects and topics to the best of my knowledge and time …. and allow me to remind you – respect is a characteristic of LOVE – while disrespect is a characteristic of hatred.
“”God’s grace to man is like, first of all it is not something earned, deserved or merited it is a gift just like salvation and righteousness are.””
Well … I have to say you’re very wrong about this type of teaching and understanding ….. please – allow me to EXPLAIN in FULL DETAIL.
“”first of all it is not something earned, deserved or merited””
YES – IT IS …. something EARNED – something DESERVE and something MERITED to those who CONFESS that CHRIST IS KING OF KINGS – risen from the dead – CONFESS that CHRIST is their LORD AND SAVIOR – and LIVE WITHIN CHRIST and not within the worlds or worldliness.
See….. ALL who LIVE IN CHRIST are SAVED …
ALL who do not LIVE IN CHRIST are damned and headed to hell.
THERE are things that are DESERVED, EARNED, and MERITED when one choose CHRIST over satan.
I AM very familiar with the type of teaching and understanding you have displayed here – in just these few lines ……
It’s not right
many people teach we’re all under GRACE …. but that’s not THE WHOLE TRUTH.
Those who are SAVED are under GOD’S FULL GRACE and FULLY COVERED. The people they REACH OUT TO and TOUCH – get a portion of that GRACE …….
those who hate GOD, CHRIST or THE HOLY GHOST – for what ever reason – are not under THE FULL GRACE OF THE LORD GOD ALMIGHTY….
“” To me it seems like you’re teaching some that you must do something in order to be forgiven “”
You must do something in order to be forgiven …
1.) before you can be forgive by GOD THE FATHER – you must FIRST FORGIVE ALL who have sinned against you and wronged you.
Mark 11:26 ►
But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses.
See … THE HOLY SCRIPTURES don’t lie.
so yes …. I TEACH – there are things you have to do – in order to be FORGIVEN. There’s MORE if you’re interested.
See… I RESEARCH, STUDY and TEACH this EACH and EVERY DAY and EACH and EVERY NIGHT. This is what I do – and have been doing it for the past 16+ YEARS … I didn’t just pick this up yesterday or the day before and a few months or years ago.
Now for one more part – before I PREPARE for tomorrow …. and if I get a chance and remember ? I will come back and respond to the rest – but what you wrote was REALLY LONG and I don’t know if I will have time to ADDRESS ALL within the next day or so….
“”but if we must do something to earn forgiveness””
which I EXPLAINED to you in my other comment …..
you have to do something to earn FORGIVENESS…..
THE HOLY SCRIPTURES do not lie and they are CLEAR, PLAIN, PRECISE and SIMPLE ….. and it seems you’re mixing up scriptures to create a false doctrines – but if this is how and what you were taught – I hope the things I do and say get and / or put you on THE RIGHT PATH.
Mark 11:26 ►
But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses.
There is something you have to do to be forgiven ….. I STAND on that …
however – you have proven you don’t stand on that – I hope you change your mind – like I said before – there is more – I would really like to EXPLAIN it ALL to you – if you would like – it might be better to connect with me on FaceBook or Twitter though …. or call me.
“”then salvation is not a gift it would be something we earned””
JESUS DIED and AROSE AGAIN –
To save us ALL from ALL of our sins …. but we have to ACCEPT THE SACRIFICE HE MADE for us … those who don’t ACCEPT HIS SACRIFICE – will not be SAVED but will end up in hell.
“” by OUR righteousness and OUR obedience “”
THE MORE CHRIST is in you ? The more RIGHTEOUS ACTIONS you do and the more RIGHTEOUS things you say.
BEING OBEDIENT TO GOD THE FATHER IS THE KEY ……
“”But the bible clearly says that “no one is righteous,””
No persons but GOD, CHRIST and THE HOLY GHOST are RIGHTEOUS – on our own ? we are not RIGHTEOUS – but when THE HOLY GHOST is RUNNING OVER IN US – we do and say RIGHTEOUS THINGS – because it is THE HOLY GHOST that is DOING and SAYING through our VESSELS….
“” no not one” and “our righteousness is like filthy rags”””
Right … our own righteousness is like filthy rags – but not THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD, CHRIST and THE HOLY GHOST when THEY’RE VESSELS are being USED and those VESSELS are doing GOD’S WILL.
“” and it also says to “take every thought captive to the obedience OF CHRIST” “”
I will advise you to understand this scripture – it only works if you’re A SERVANT OF THE LORD – it works for no one else. However – many act as if it’s for everyone – but it’s not – just THE SERVANTS OF THE LORD …
Isaiah 54:17
No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the Lord, and their righteousness is of me, saith the Lord.
I hope you can understand these lines …..
“”and their righteousness is of me, saith the Lord.””
“”This is the heritage of the servants of the Lord””
“”and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn””
See … GOD’S SERVANTS are CALLED to condemn every tongue that rises against them … but man twists it – and say – you don’t have to – but over look it – and let them talk ….. and so on …. that is a false doctrine
“”At the very moment you declare that Jesus is your Lord and Savior you become righteous through faith permanently!””
this statement is so NOT TRUE and so UN TRUE …..
it is a lie ….. once saved always saved is a false doctrine …
Many have feel from GRACE and are in hell or headed to hell.
Once you LIVE IN CHRIST and continue to LIVE IN CHRIST unto your death – then you are SAVED – not until then …
see … you’re teaching people that all they have to do is say a few words in front of some church people and their SOUL IS PROTECTED FOREVER … and that is a false doctrine – created by false prophets and false teachers to gain audiences to misguide and mislead people away from CHRIST and towards satan …… I hope you understand …
“”Hopefully you kind of get my point that telling people they hate God isn’t leading them closer to Jesus””
If it’s THE TRUTH – ???? Then it’s THE TRUTH.
See … I discuss these things all the time – DAILY and NIGHTLY – ALL THE TIME … I LEAD, SHOW and TEACH people how to LOVE GOD and what it is to hate GOD …..
They high majority of the people on this earth hate GOD …..
Thus the reason many will go to hell and few will go to HEAVEN.
I won’t change what THE HOLY GHOST told me to say …..
It seems you would rather me beat around the bush – sugar coat it and water it down to get people to like me – but I AM not here to please man – I AM only here to please GOD, CHRIST and THE HOLY GHOST ….
“” in fact I know of some people that are led away from church because of similar teachings””
If they are lead away because of THE TRUTH – then they seek not THE TRUTH – and GOD, CHRIST nor THE HOLY GHOST will tolerate anyone who hates THE TRUTH to be allowed into THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN ….
Lol
you say …. “”Lol”” is that short for lucifer our lord ???
Haha!
Can you get an acronym for that?
Oh and I doubt people are gonna watch your videos when it’s of you spewing the same judgemental nonsense that you spew in words on these websites.
Well …. several ONLINE RADIO and TELEVISION NETWORKS have picked up SCRIPTURE CHANNEL of 1Latham TV – and airing EPISODES all day – every day … even my Twitter Account is blowing up with MENTIONS of the plays – and the people ENLIGHTENED, DELIVERED and HEALED from false doctrines, false prophets and false teachings ….
so .. what ever else other hateful and wicked statements you can or want to throw this way ? I say … go for it – knock yourself out.
GOD gave ALL FREEWILL …… but I have WARNED you several times – about making up lies about me – and now I AM going to WARN you one last time – about speaking against GOD’S WILL being done.
must get awfully cold upon your moral high ground. you spew all this scripture and you refute what you have no understanding of… you probably hate gay people as well, because you just don’t understand it… get off your high horse buddy.
“”must get awfully cold upon your moral high ground.””
Moral high ground ??? LOL … no … I AM not on any moral high ground – but I know the difference between RIGHTEOUSNESS and unrighteousness ….
“” you spew all this scripture and you refute what you have no understanding of… “”
Well … I see you’re filled with a lot of hatred ….. too much to explain what you’re talking about …..
“”you probably hate gay people as well,””
I don’t hate anyone – and I have a whole lot of gay connections and friends I MINISTER TO….. I may hate their sins – but I don’t hate them ….. I do the same with many atheists too – muslims too …. I LOVE ALL PEOPLE – but you being a false witness is an abomination unto GOD.
“” because you just don’t understand it… get off your high horse buddy.””
oh … I understand very well ….
ALL sin leads to death ….
those who want to LIVE ??? ETERNALLY WITH THE LORD ???
Will do everything in their power to seek out every sin they can REPENT FROM ….. now …
I know you’re a very miserable person and all – and I know misery loves company – I will not tolerate any conversations or discussions with the likes of you – if you continue to be a false witness and falsely accuse me of things that I have not done.
you should really watch that video I shared – it’s EASY to be perfect in GOD’S EYES and HEART ….. and get up off the hate and the need to be and remain defiled.